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</section><section><h2>Dear Ask-the-Rabbi Rabbi,</h2>
<p>My father ran away when I was two years old. Disappeared. No child support, nothing. Now I’m twenty-four. Last year I tracked him down. Don’t ask me why. I felt I had to, without knowing what I would say or do when we met. Just to discover he had died two years ago.</p>
<p>Now I’m torn. On the one hand, I figure I have to say kaddish on his <i>yahrtzeit</i>—in two months. On the other hand, what connection do I have to him? I mean, he abandoned me and Mom for all those years. And he never tried to make a connection with me or support me in any way, so why should I say kaddish for him?</p>
<p>Maybe this is not the real sort of situation that kaddish is meant for. Doesn’t saying kaddish imply at least some kind of emotional attachment or respect?</p>
<p align="right">—Yitz Gadal (pseudonym)</p>
</section><section><h2>Response:</h2>
<p>Hi Yitz!</p>
<p>Yes, it’s the pits. It’s the kind of pain that’s so deep, you don’t want to acknowledge how much it hurts. Because you don’t want to have to visit that place inside. There’s something about us that wants—really badly wants—to put our parents on a pedestal. But then you find Dad and realize that he doesn’t belong on a pedestal, because he never had a pedestal to begin with.</p>
<span><sl-divider size="large"></sl-divider><span class="pullquote">There’s something about us that really badly wants to put our parents on a pedestal.</span><sl-divider size="large"></sl-divider></span>
<p>Do you have to say kaddish for him? Let’s say Dad was sexually abusive or a relentless child-beater. For such a parent, you probably would have no obligation to sit in mourning for him. Mourning is a way of honoring a parent, and someone so blatantly wicked has foregone that honor.<a class="footnote_ref" href="javascript:doFootnote('1a3236861');" name="footnoteRef1a3236861">1</a> Saying kaddish may be another matter, as we will see.</p>
<p>But I don’t think that’s the case here. It sounds more like someone who was just irresponsible. You’ve still got a valid grudge—he never cared to contact you, or make up for all those years of abandonment.</p>
<p>And that’s important to face up to. When we don’t acknowledge the faults of our parents, we end up shifting the blame from them onto ourselves. It’s when that pedestal falls that you free yourself from the burden of guilt so you can get on with life.</p>
<p>So I suggest you first try to acknowledge that grudge, visit the place of that hurt, and then, when you’re ready, get on with healing it. And a kaddish on his <i>yahrtzeit</i> could well be the right place to start with that healing.<a class="footnote_ref" href="javascript:doFootnote('2a3236861');" name="footnoteRef2a3236861">2</a></p>
</section><section><h2>The Prototypical Orphan’s Kaddish</h2>
<p>I’ll explain why. This may seem strange, but although it may seem like you are one in a million, you’re not. In fact, the classic Talmudic story of kaddish said by a child is a case of one who never knew a father—and whose father was not worth knowing. There are many versions, but it basically goes like this:<a class="footnote_ref" href="javascript:doFootnote('3a3236861');" name="footnoteRef3a3236861">3</a></p>
<p>Rabbi Akiva sees a man running through a cemetery. The guy is naked, black with soot, and burdened with a load of wood.</p>
<p>Rabbi Akiva yells, “Stop! What on earth are you doing?” And, being Rabbi Akiva, he continues, “And what can I do to help?”</p>
<p>Turns out, the guy was dead. In his past life, he had been a tax collector with an important government position who squeezed the life out of the poor to give to the rich. He also committed adultery—on Yom Kippur, no less.</p>
<p>As a punishment, he now must collect wood each day to build a pyre upon which he is barbecued each evening, only to have to run through the exercise again the next morning. (Today, this is called being an employee.)</p>
<p>Rabbi Akiva asks whether this dead man has any clues how he could be granted a pardon.</p>
<p>“Yes,” the man answers. “I heard my supervisors saying that if I had a son, and that son would stand among the congregation and say kaddish and the congregation would answer, <i>‘Amen! Yehei shmeih rabba mevorach!’</i><a class="footnote_ref" href="javascript:doFootnote('4a3236861');" name="footnoteRef4a3236861">4</a>—then I would be off the hook for his sake.”</p>
<p>“No problem!” exclaims Rabbi Akiva. “Let me take care of it.”</p>
<p>“Big problem,” the man replies. “I didn’t leave a son behind.”</p>
<p>“Yes, that’s a problem,” Rabbi Akiva says.</p>
<span><sl-divider size="large"></sl-divider><span class="pullquote">I heard them say that if I had a son who would say kaddish more me, I would be off the hook.</span><sl-divider size="large"></sl-divider></span>
<p>“On the other hand,” the man continues, “I think my wife was pregnant when I died. But I don’t know whether she gave birth, and whether it was a boy or a girl. And if she did, the boy certainly wouldn’t have learned any Torah, because the people weren’t exactly my friends.”</p>
<p>“You’ve got me as a friend,” answers Rabbi Akiva. “Just give me your info. Your name, your wife’s name and the name of your town.”</p>
<p>“Name is Arnuniya. Wife’s name, Shishchaya. Town, Ludkiya.”</p>
<p>Rabbi Akiva is immediately on his way to Ludkiya. Once there, he’s asking the townspeople about Arnuniya. The response is worse than he imagined.</p>
<p>“May his bones grind in hell,” they mutter, spitting on the ground and grinding the spit deep in.</p>
<p>“How about his wife, Shishchaya?” he asks.</p>
<p>Not a good question. “May her name and her memory be eradicated!” they answer, spitting again.</p>
<p>So he asks about her child. Good news and bad news. Shishchaya had a boy. But she had never even bothered to circumcise him.</p>
<p>Rabbi Akiva gets hold of this child, circumcises him and sits him down to learn. The kid just sits there blinking. His skull is so thick, nothing can enter.</p>
<p>Rabbi Akiva is a man of love and compassion for every one of G‑d’s creatures—even tax collectors and their children. What does he do? He fasts for forty days. After forty days, he hears a voice from heaven: “Akiva, you’re fasting for <i>who</i>?”</p>
<p>“Master of the Universe!” Rabbi Akiva shouts out. “Just trust me on this one. Open up the kid’s heart so I can work with him.”</p>
<p>As this is Rabbi Akiva talking, G‑d complies. Next thing you know, the kid is reading Torah like a pro, saying the Shema Yisrael, the Silent Prayer and even Grace After Meals.</p>
<p>As soon as he’s ready, Rabbi Akiva stands him before the congregation. The boy says “Barchu” and they answer him.</p>
<p>Finally, he says kaddish and they answer him, <i>“Amen! Yehei shmeih rabba mevorach!”</i></p>
<p>The end of the story: The father is released from the barbecue business with a ticket to heaven. We know that because he returned to Rabbi Akiva in a dream to thank him.</p>
</section><section><h2>The Soul’s Interface</h2>
<p>Now, I’m not judging the father who abandoned you. I don’t know the whole story. What I do know is that there are two souls here that need fixing as a result of his parenting, or lack of it: Yours and his. And kaddish is a powerful tool—along with others we’ll get to later—to do just that. It’s a two-way street that runs through the avenues of the heart and mind, right into the soul: When you fix your parent’s past, you fix your own future.</p>
<span><sl-divider size="large"></sl-divider><span class="pullquote">When you fix your parent’s past, you fix your own future.</span><sl-divider size="large"></sl-divider></span>
<p>That requires some explanation. Which Rabbi Yitzchak Luria (Tzfat, 16th century), known as the Arizal, provides:<a class="footnote_ref" href="javascript:doFootnote('5a3236861');" name="footnoteRef5a3236861">5</a></p>
<p>The first thing you have to know is that we are not like automobiles coming off a factory line. Whatever happens at the Honda plant in Indiana today doesn’t affect my Accord that came off its lines two years ago. But with the people we came from, we are forever connected.</p>
<p>A father can walk out on his kids, but he can’t divorce them. He can’t even truly and completely separate himself from them. And neither can the kids divorce their father. A father is forever a father and a child forever a child, for better and for worse. At the end of the day, the memory of a child is indelibly engraved in the mind of the parent, and the imprint of the parent pervades every cell of the child. Geographically they may be light-years apart, but like entangled subatomic particles, what happens in one immediately affects the other. </p>
<span><sl-divider size="large"></sl-divider><span class="pullquote">An essential part of you emerges out of your parents and remains forever connected to them.</span><sl-divider size="large"></sl-divider></span>
<p>The reason for that, the Arizal explains, is because it’s not just chromosomes that you receive from your parents. An essential part of you has not only emerged from out of your parents, but remains forever connected to them. It’s not your soul and it’s not your body. It’s something in a certain way even more important than either of those.</p>
<p>Who are you? In essence, the Arizal taught, you are a divine soul, sent here on a mission. The principal target of your mission is a body of sinews and blood driven by the instincts of self-preservation and gratification. Your soul must enter that body so that it can bring it to realize that it too is divine—and to get it to behave that way.</p>
<p>But how can a divine soul, the ultimate spiritual being, relate to an earthly physical body? The answer is that it’s provided a kind of interface, in the form of a thinking human personality.</p>
<p>Think of the interface between you and the device that’s in your hands or on your desktop as you are reading this. You and that hardware reside in two very different worlds. That’s why companies such as Apple, Google and Microsoft spend billions of dollars designing an elegant interface—a visual and audible means of presenting what’s going on inside that plastic, metal and silicon box—that is meaningful, intuitive and speaks to you, while efficiently driving its hardware within.</p>
<p>As a human being, you have a similar interface, and it’s not just your physical brain. Your divine soul operates through the medium of a human mind and heart that is capable of seeing beyond instinct and immediate gratification, a being that can hear what the divine soul is trying to say and be inspired by it. Yet at the same time it’s a <i>human</i> mind and heart, very much a part of this world. It acts as the go-between, reining in the beast while teaching it to conform to the vision of the Divine soul.</p>
</section><section><h2>Fixing Upstream</h2>
<p>Here’s the hitch: While the body is a product of Mom and Dad’s DNA, and the soul is a forever Divine piece of business handpicked by the Creator to fulfill its particular mission on the planet, this intelligent interface that is at the guts of your personality, this is something, the Arizal teaches, that emerges from the inner mental and spiritual state of your father and mother at the time of conception.</p>
<p>Whoa, you’re saying, that might not be a good deal, because my parents’ mental and spiritual state at the time they were making me might not have been so healthy. Or worse. Yes, that is the problem. No matter how great the divine soul that breathes within you, if it doesn’t have a clear pathway to the human animal in which it is invested, it’s going to be riding a bucking bronco without saddle or reins.</p>
<span><sl-divider size="large"></sl-divider><span class="pullquote">No matter how great the divine soul that breathes within you, it’s still needs that interface.</span><sl-divider size="large"></sl-divider></span>
<p>That was the problem of the little child of the tax collector in Rabbi Akiva’s story. His body was healthy. His Divine soul was perfect, as every Divine soul must be, and all its programming was there in place. It’s just that because of who his parents were, how they behaved and where their heads were at, the interface between that soul and the body was a disaster. Torah could not enter, and prayer could not come out.</p>
<p>But there’s a fix. Because the personalities of child and parents remain networked. Which means that the direction you take in life affects your father’s state. And vice-versa: Once the things are fixed upstream, the water runs downstream crystal clear.</p>
<p>Kaddish is one way of accomplishing that. People assume that kaddish is a prayer for the dead, or some way of honoring them. Read the words, and you’ll see it has nothing to do with that. When you say kaddish for a parent, you are leading the community in declaring the greatness of their Creator. By doing so, you’re picking yourself up to a whole new level.</p>
<p>The same with learning Torah, giving charity, or any other mitzvah you now do. You’re not doing it for him—you’re doing it to illuminate your own inner self, you’re doing it to lift up your entire world. And by doing so, you’re affecting your father, fixing the problem at its source.</p>
<p>That’s what Rabbi Akiva was out to do with this boy. He had to extricate him from the pit of thick, gooey mud in which he had been born. He had to be circumcised, taught Torah, and become a leader in prayer. In the place of all the darkness his father had brought into the world, he had to bring tremendous light. He had to become a different person, the opposite of who his father had been—and through that, automatically, his father’s soul was able to find respite.</p>
<p>Because the two are really one. Just as the son was messed up by his father’s life, so the son was able to fix up his father by changing that life his father had given him.</p>
</section><section><h2>Do It Now</h2>
<p>Everything in this world, the Arizal taught, is a two-way street. Fortunately, you don’t have to wait until a parent is gone to know what you’ve got—and to do something about it.</p>
<span><sl-divider size="large"></sl-divider><span class="pullquote">Everything in this world is a two-way street. And that’s something to celebrate.</span><sl-divider size="large"></sl-divider></span>
<p>Yitz, your father may be gone, but your mother is still with you. When you provide her with the most valuable things a child can give to a parent—respect, honor, love and dignity—your own persona rises higher along with hers.</p>
<p>There are those who feel their parents don’t deserve that respect—and, in some cases, they may be right. Some people have abusive parents. Some need to stay far away from home. Some even have to avoid all communication.<a class="footnote_ref" href="javascript:doFootnote('6a3236861');" name="footnoteRef6a3236861">6</a></p>
<p>Yet despite all that, we’re never passive victims of this universe. The same One who deals the cards is the same One who gives us the opportunities to win. We may not be able to change the people around us directly, but we can do our best to fix ourselves, our attitude and how we treat others. When we do that, all those connected to us move up a notch, in this world and in the next. And it all bounces back to the place from which it came.</p>
<p>There’s a lot to celebrate. The whole universe is in your hands.</p></section></div>
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<p>Concerning mourning for a wicked person, see glosses of Rema (Rabbi Moshe Isserles) to Shulchan Aruch, Yoreh Deah 340:5; Siftei Kohen 340:8; Chochmat Adam 156:3. Furthermore, the Torah does not demand that a person place unbearable strain on his or her psychological wellbeing for the sake of honoring a parent. For a full discussion of such cases see Rabbi Mark Dratch’s article in <i>Hakirah</i> 12 (2011): 105–119.</p>
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<p>Since the news was heard over a year later, there is no seven-day mourning period, or thirty days, or year of mourning. One simply sits on the ground for a short time. <i>Keriah</i> (ripping of upper garments) is also performed, but this should be done with the assistance of a rabbi or someone experienced in the specifics of this obligation.<br>
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Nevertheless, it is certainly worthwhile to make up for the lost year of mourning by such things as leading the congregation in prayer, reading the <i>haftarah</i>, and certainly by giving charity and taking on more mitzvahs on behalf of the deceased.</p>
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<p>Ohr Zarua II, end of chapter 50; Responsa of Rivash 115; Menorat Hamaor (Abohav), Ner Aleph 2:1, quoting Kallah Rabbati 11 and Tanchuma Noach; Seder Eliyahu Zuta, end of chapter 17; Zohar Chadash.</p>
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<p>Translation: “May His great name be blessed forever and ever!” That’s the standard response to kaddish. The main point of kaddish is that you lead the congregation in saying that.</p>
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<p>Likkutei Torah (Arizal), Parshat Va’eira.</p>
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I love that. The G_d who deals out the cards is the same one who gives us opportunities to win. My dad is dead. He was abusive and left when I was 15, but not soon enough to save my youngest sister from abuse. My Mom aided and abetted him, homeschooling us to keep us away from school counselors, talking the police/social workers away from the door. Now she is old, and I am divorced, sick, and between jobs now staying with her. It seems a cruel twist of fate. However, our relationship is thawing, and I am learning to be a better person. I still struggle with the stuff you mention: respect, honor, love, and dignity. We didn&#39;t have that in my house growing up or in my previous marriage. I am learning it from scratch in my 40s like the kid in the story. I have a lot of debt, and I don&#39;t think they have Yeshivahs for women my age. I read Chabad.org, the blue Chumash, and I&#39;m addingTanya again. Maintaining kind speech is hard. Any help would be appreciated. 
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Rabbi Freeman thank you for patiently explaining the Kaddish business. <br />It was really awesome to read!
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It is unclear to me as to why a father who deserts his growing family at tender ages...a young boy age 12 yrs of age...looking forward to his Bar Mitzvah and two younger sibling sisters have the responsiblity of vindicating their father and keep in mind the Yahrzeit date asa Kaddish yearly. In my mind a man who has gone thru WW II along w his wife who survives Aushwitz...leave his family wo care or sustenance has the right to be remembered in holy spiritual prayer is wo question to me....in his last years we are told he kept on repeating in a foreign language....(Yiddish) ....asking for his wife by name...finally he passed on ...cremated by his then new family....they contacted ...in response...were told to toss the ashes down the toilet!....it is undeniably inaccurate to be judgemental in any circumstance...yet...the choices resounds w future generations....combat children, grandchildren for many years to come!
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There is a world on a higher plane than the one we see around us. It is just as real as this one, perhaps even more so, but it is only seen through the eyes of the soul. In that World of Truth, the pure and unsullied soul is pained by the mistakes and bad choices made by the body in which it was manifest. The children who are saying kaddish are connecting to their parents soul above and beyond the parent’s sins and together repair and cleanse the whole person. 
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I loved reading this! Your answer was so thorough and encouraging!
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Deuteronomy 5:16 (WLC) כַּבֵּ֤ד אֶת־אָבִ֨יךָ֙ וְאֶת־אִמֶּ֔ךָ כַּאֲשֶׁ֥ר צִוְּךָ֖ יְהוָ֣ה אֱלֹהֶ֑יךָ לְמַ֣עַן יַאֲרִיכֻ֣ן יָמֶ֗יךָ וּלְמַ֨עַן֙ יִ֣יטַב לָ֔ךְ עַ֚ל הָֽאֲדָמָ֔ה אֲשֶׁר־יְהוָ֥ה אֱלֹהֶ֖יךָ נֹתֵ֥ן לָֽךְ׃ ס<br /><br />Deuteronomy 5:16 (ESV) “‘Honor your father and your mother, as HaShem your Elohim commanded you, that your days may be long, and that it may go well with you in the land that HaShem your Elohim is giving you.<br /><br />I’m no expert, but it seems simple enough to me, those who use poor performance as an excuse to refuse due honor to either parent is being wilfully disobedient, and at the same time denying themselves the blessings promised. <br /><br />For anyone who cannot find it in their heart to do so, they should pray HaShem softens their heart so they may learn to forgive, and render the undeserved honor. Then HaShem can forgive us for our shortcomings and render to us The blessings we did not deserve. 
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“...no expert, but...” apparently easier for you to judge someone else’s shoes then to live in them! Please don’t ever assume your simple challenges are the same for everyone!
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My parents did me seriousy wrong. My father raged at me, saying I ought to be ashamed. To please him, I became chronically ashamed. This affected my entire physiology. <br />Meanwhile people pleaded with my mother to be allowed to baby-sit me and she simply caved in and allowed these inappropriate people to babysit me. I won&#39;t say but you can guess. <br />It has taken me decades and many types of help before I found a a therapist who could help me let go of the negativity implanted in my body and soul because of my parents&#39; errors. <br />They meant well but they did serious harm to my physical and mental health. <br />Nonetheless I have forgiven them and believe it or not, it helps. <br /><br />Fine a way to forgive. Feel the anger, and feel the fear beneath the anger. Get down to the pain. Find someone who can help you let go of all of it. It&#39;s difficult, but you can do it. <br /><br />Gd bless you. I wish you the best. 
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I’m certainly not judging. It took me a long time to do the difficult though simple job of forgiving. And I am fortunate that my father is still alive. <br />As for what was done or left undone, the result is still hurt from abandonment, abuse or neglect. And our sense of Justice wants and insists we have vengeance, so they know our pain properly. But Adonai says vengeance belongs to him. When I wrestle with him for it, am I not asking him to worship me?
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The trouble with &quot;vengeance&quot; is that the one who is hurt is YOU.<br /><br />Hopefully you can find someone to help you let go so that the desire for vengeance is gone.<br /><br />Then you will be free. <br /><br />Then you will find you can enjoy life fully.<br /><br />Wishing you all the best.
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What a great response and hope the young man finds comfort in your words...…..
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I&#39;m sorry I don&#39;t agree. A child abandoned or mistreated should not be under an obligation to say Kaddish. The parent was not a parent while the child was alive why should the child teat them as such when they are dead. Their souls&#39; suffering is because of what they did. In my thirties I had an argument with. My mother about her preferential treatment of my brother. I asked am I not as much your son as my brother? She said: No your not. From that day forward she simply became the women who gave birth to me. I have never said Kaddish for her or remembered her Yarziet. For my father, who loved mee and my brother, I have never forgotten. Parents reap what they are.
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The Hebrew word for reason &#39;ta&#39;am&#39; also means taste. When a Mitzvah seems to have a reason behind it, it is important to recognise that that is only flavoring to make it easier for us to do. The true reason for every Mitzvah is that this is the Will of Hashem.<br />Therefore, we keep the Mitzvah even when the rationale for it doesn&#39;t seem to apply.
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My heart goes out to you, Jim. I understand all too well the power that abandonment has, whether from parents, other family members, or even members of our community of today. It hurts, and it hurts a lot. After some period of time, each of us to our own time frame, the hurt, anger and resentment towards the other is, however, destructive to us. It was/is to me, anyway. There is power in forgiving someone, though it is not easy. And it is harder still when the other either is not around to take ownership of their actions, or if they do not have it in them to do so.<br />All I can offer you, Jim, is my heartfelt prayers that you find peace.<br />Shalom
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I&#39;m going to agree with you. My father abandoned me and my mother when I was one year old and with the help of my best friend, I found him after 45 years. We reunited and I got to meet his ex-wife and the two sons from that marriage and the current wife and daughter from that marriage. Before he died two years ago, I begged him not to have himself bar-b qued (I hate saying cremated), but he insisted, so I did not say kaddish. I did say kaddish for the father that adopted me and raised me. I go to Yizkor for him and my mom,(z&quot;l) and say kaddish every year for their yartzeit. I have no regrets.
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We say kaddish for our own sake, not for the sake of the dead.<br /><br />The kaddish prayer affirms our loving relationship to GD rather than our appreciation of the parent.<br /><br />Yitgadol vyitkadash shmei rabah. Magnified and sanctified be His Great Name. <br /><br />Not our father's name. GD's Name. We love Gd even though we are suffering.<br /><br />The more we love Gd, the more our suffering goes away and we can become happy in spite of whatever happened.<br /><br />We say Kaddish for our own sake, to become happy in spite of it all. <br /><br />This world is not Paradise. It's a course in suffering. <br /><br />We learn here to be happy no matter what happens. <br /><br />Or we don't learn it. Be happy. <br /><br />That is my wish for you. 
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You are absolutely right. We keep this mitzvah, like any mitzvah, to express our love for HaShem.<br /><br />And this mitzvah is especially helpful in that goal.
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His soul is already damaged by the cremation. <br />Don&#39;t you want to help undo the damage by saying kaddish for him and by giving tsdakah for him?<br />He clearly needs it!<br /><br />Gd bless you and heal you. And heal me too. 
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The Kaddish is beautiful. When I was in a reform synagogue, I said Kaddish for my dad and discovered it was a beautiful declaration of G_d&#39;s amazing qualities meant to be said when we were tempted by grief to be angry and hurt and turn away from G_d instead. For someone who has been abused, it is a declaration that despite all of the evil, G_d is still good. Chabad doesn&#39;t have women say Kaddish, but it is a beautiful prayer to read. 
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Thank you Hymie. You&#39;ve said it so well, no one has ever said it this well. We need to reach out to Hashem to elevate everything, and we must choose happiness. 
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There is no greater honor for the deceased and no greater tikun for the survivor, than giving of your own hard-earned money to help the guy who doesn&#39;t have, or contributing valuable sefarim that will be used by schoolchildren and shul-goers on a regular basis.<br /><br />There is a tradition that Kaddish is like sending greetings to the other world. Learning a Mishnah is like sending a letter. And giving tzedaka is like sending an entire package.
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and I accept that a true Kaddish is doing what G-d wants, not what I want. If you read the prayer through, it has no mention of parents, death, or loss, it is purely sanctifying G-d&#39;s name and accepting His Sovereignty over the world. If I truly believe that the Creator of the world runs this world according to His Will, not mine, and gave us a Torah with instructions as how to derive Halacha for our day to day lives, then that is what I do. And if I ask someone else to say Kaddish, then I am satisfied that G-d gave me an opportunity to share the Mitzvah, and if it cost money, then that only adds to the Mitzvah and gives benefit to others. 
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I absolutely sympathize with Shoshanna and Diane. If I had been born a girl, it would have been me who learned from my mother how to bentsh licht and how to keep a kosher kitchen. My presence in shul saying kaddish would have borne witness to how she taught me yiddishkeit and how I continued to carry on bentshing licht and keeping a kosher home as she taught me. No hired help could bear this witness for me. No hired help could have given me the comfort I gained from saying kaddish for one parent, then the other, for two years. When Dad died, Mom was heartbroken. She came with me to shul every day when I said kaddish for him, and she said it behind the mehitsah. I could see how it comforted her and enabled her to carry on. I still recall how the tears ran down her face as she said it. I still recall her joining the group at breakfast after the dovening. I am surprised at you, Tzvi. You are normally kindly and sensitive. Your suggestions lack the emotional comfort of kaddish. 
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Thank you, Harvey. I said kaddish for both my parents when they died, for the whole year, and every year on their yahrzeit.<br /><br />It was a huge comfort. I don&#39;t know how I could have grieved and mourned and healed without being able to say kaddish myself. 
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Cold & heartless to pay some uncaring stranger to say kaddish.<br />Saying kaddish ourselves shows how Mama cared enough for her child to make sure that she learned to magnify and sanctify Gd's name. <br /><br />In my opinion some stranger saying kaddish by rote shows nothing and dishonors Mama, implying that nobody cares enough about the Mama to say kaddish herself. Donating mere books is fine but offers no comfort. <br /><br />How heartless to demand that we hire an uncaring stranger to say kaddish for a beloved Mama, instead of actually saying it. It was my Mama. She taught me to keep kosher and to bentsh licht, to know that Gd is everywhere, to pray, & to take the bus to Hebrew school when I wanted to go. Some strange man mindlessly saying words without kavannah, w/o ever bentshing licht or managing a kosher kitchen himself, would've dishonored her memory. She was my Mama, not his. Stop excusing the pre-empting of the comfort of this so-personal kaddish prayer for Mama. Any donation of cash or books is extra and cold. 
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In a situation where there is no son, or for whatever reason, the son cannot/will not say Kaddish, another person may be hired or volunteer to do so. The daughter who asks someone to say Kaddish for her deceased parent, and makes a donation to charity for that purpose has accomplished the all that is mentioned in Rabbi Freeman&#39;s wonderful article. Even more, a woman&#39;s life as nurturer whether for her family or her community is a living Kaddish- proclamation of G-d&#39;s greatness and brings merit to her parents as a link in the chain of perpetuity which is a reflection of G-d&#39;s Limitlessness. 
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&quot;Comfort for survivors&quot; is a fair argument, if kaddish provides that for you. What I am saying is that it is not the woman&#39;s particular way. Women, as I wrote, sometimes take on men&#39;s roles. But it is not their particular role.<br /><br />A greater comfort is to give tzedakah (charity) in the name of the deceased—especially in the form of prayer books, etc. for a synagogue, or books for a Jewish school with the name of the deceased inscribed within. That provides a much more long-lasting comfort. It also provides the deceased a physical presence in this world, along with great merit every time those books are used.
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When I give tzedakah, I give it in the name of one or the other parent. <br />This may be a "greater comfort" in your eyes than saying Kaddish, but to me it is a duty, not a comfort. <br />Like every duty, I do it from love of other people, of other Jews, and of Gd, but it is not a comfort. <br />Have a heart, Tzvi. Let us have comfort.<br />The greatest comfort I have for my beloved and imperfect parents, who died in 1994 and 1997, is my memory of having faithfully said Kaddish for them myself, in addition to whatever I paid others to say for them. I still light a candle and go to shul to say kaddish with a minyan, every year. I hope that someday my only child will say kaddish for them as well as for me. <br /><br />I also said kaddish for my niece's mother-in-law. She can't say it since both her parents are alive. Her husband should, but he doesn't. I say it daily. Now his father has died. I say it for him too. <br /><br />Now that my father is gone and cannot say kaddish for his father's yahrzeit, I say it for him. 
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Saying Kaddish for a parent doesn&#39;t mean one is trying to be a man. I see it as a way to honor a parent as well as part of the healing process. <br />My only brother was murdered when he was 23 so there is just my younger sister (who converted to Christianity) and me. <br />I have no children at home. It is just my husband &amp; me. So, who is there to say Kaddish and honor my parents, if not me? <br />Mrs. Frankel whose son was one of the 3 boys kidnapped from Yeshiva &amp; murdered in Hebron in 2014 said Kaddish for her son at the gravesite with the rabbis standing there. No one told her she couldn&#39;t. My Orthodox female friend in NYC went every day to Mincha &amp; said Kaddish for her parents. She said she was very much welcomed by the men there in the minyan. And, she was in the women&#39;s section. <br />I still light yahrzeit candle for my brother, &amp; instead of saying Kaddish, it was suggested giving tzedaka in his memory which I have been doing. <br />When my parents die, though, I plan to say Kaddish. No one else will.
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Why have you stopped saying kaddish annually for your beloved brother? <br />Doesn&#39;t it still comfort you?<br /><br />Of course you can also give tsdakah. <br /><br />Wish you all comfort that helps you. <br /><br />Wishing you everything good.<br /><br />LShanah Tovah.<br /><br />May you be inscirbed and sealed for a GOOD YEAR. 
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It is not yet Shabbos here.
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I am shocked to hear you claim that saying Kaddish for my mother meant I was trying to be a man.<br /><br />I said kaddish every day for my mother. Her son lived far from shul, nor did he go to say kaddish. But my going was my only comfort. After 11 months it was painful to stop. The prayer sustained me through my grief, and so did the other people (men and women) who attended the service and shared the breakfast.<br /><br />It is not only about whether the prayer &quot;counts&quot; in the merit of the deceased. It is also about the tremendous comfort it gives to the survivors. Why would you want to destroy all comfort for us?<br /><br />My sister just died. I am saying kaddish for her too now. I am shocked that a man of your sensitivity and caring would order anyone to be deprived of the one comfort available to Jewish mourners, a comfort so so desperately needed by a close survivor. My sister&#39;s only son died years ago; her daughters have no sons; my son&#39;s parents are alive. A male stranger who doesn&#39;t care is better???
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&quot;Yitz Gadal (pseudonym)&quot; - brilliant as is the article
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Thank you - these comments are having the effect of helping me in my healing and forgiveness - it is a slow process for me..and I have learnt that my only daughter also needs healing and forgiveness from me as a single parent, and that she is suffering...
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Rabbi Freeman, what to do if you&#39;re adopted? Do the circumstances of your conception still cling to you even if you have been raised in a loving family? Do not the love and support of the adoptive parents and family mitigate circumstances of conception? If child has never met biological parents how would he say kaddish for them since he doesn&#39;t even know their names? Wouldn&#39;t he instead say it for the adoptive parents who raised him with love and support? 
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A brilliant reply. Thank you!
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Thank you so much for this well written and heart rending account of Kaddish.<br />At some time in our lives, if Yah is kind to our parents, each of us will be abandoned by them. Is it easier to be abandoned by a loving parent than a neglectful or abusive one? I don&#39;t think so. But I agree it can be hard to forgive anyone who mistreats us, especially as a child... Shall I curse the name of my abuser? Can I expect anything more than cursing for myself when I stand face to face with my creator? For is it not written that with the same measure I use, it will be measured out to me? <br />If I am to love Elohanu with all my heart mind and strength, and my neighbour as myself, then let me exercise all my strength to forgive those who have wronged me, even in my innocence as a child, just as I want to be forgiven by Elohanu, whose perfect nature He overcomes to forgive me for my sins.<br />Shalom
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